Responses Subject: Re: Aging Technology Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:17:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Schneider To:melayb@deadfish.com (MelayB) Carmela: One could imagine a project to do this - by taking pictures of people and tracking their food and other habits, but it would take years. There may be people doing such studies, even at NIH, but I don't know of them as I'm a molecular biologist at this point. You might look at: http://www.nih.gov/nia/ which is the National Institute on Aging, a part of NIH. They might have some ideas for you. That was the idea. You take an old image and a young image and subtract them. Then you map the age wrinkles onto a young image. One could also warp the young face to have older structure. Some of this apparently is being done for the lost children, but I am not connected with that work. You could contact: http://www.missingkids.com/html/portal.html which is the national center for missing and exploited children. They perhaps can tell you how they do this now. You could also contact Nancy Burson who may still be involved in this. Good luck. I'll be interested to know what you find. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Aging Technology Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:59:40 -0700 (PDT) From: mikemosh@well.com (Mike Mosher) To: MelayB CC: swilson@sfsu.edu Hi Carmela, My info on Burson, Carlin & Kramlich are from their book _COMPOSITES: Computer Generated Portraits_, Beech Tree/Wm. Morrow, NY 1986. At the time it says) Burson lived in New York City, Carling in Bedford, MA and Kramlich was in New York City working with Face Systems, Inc. Hope this helps. Sure. Anything's possible with enough programmers, computer power & money. I wonder if Healtheon (founded by a guy who founded Netscape) or any of the online medical info developers are investigating anything like this. Or insurance companies or HMOs. Healtheon recently hired famous interface designer Bruce "Tog" Tognazzini, who produced a cool video prototyping network computers of the near future when he was at Sun Microsystems (that I showed Art 412 last year). So who knows...? You would want to determine rules for both aging and lifestyle, what parts of the body thicken to what degree, correlations between calorie intake/exercise/physical change. I recently saw a demo by VR developers Blaxxun (they've got an S.F. office, but the demo at the VirtComm '99 conference was by Franz from Germany) of software now in beta for customizing your on-screen avatar in their virtual world. You could grab the nose and lengthen/shorten, same for legs, waist etc. You could design something similar for double chins, bags under eyes, rubber tire around waist & fat butt etc. Also hope you include damage to looks, lungs, health by tobacco. I'm curious about the holography aspect of it. An alternative for exhibition you'd want to project the computer imagery upon a white plaster head. Or, investigate red/green and Pulfarich 3D illusory effects. Sounds like a grand project! Please keep me posted. In fact, I hope you post your completed CIA work online for the world to see. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Human Holographic Projection Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:51:48 -0400 From: "Michael Ackerman" To: melayb@deadfish.com Yes it is possible to put together the four points that you suggest. The only part that is not fully known is how to extract general aging principles form younger and older pictures. If these rules could be described, then your suggestion could be realized. Back to Main Page [Image]